And don't forget the Panasonic LX-3... though I've kind of given up on that one.

The dependence on Apple for camera RAW file updates is a significant reason why I steer folks away from Aperture. Adobe is pretty good about getting new RAW file support into Lightroom and Adobe Camera Raw since supporting photographers is what they do. For Apple, it's a minor afterthought.

Thanks for the update Derrick. I've just tried importing some S90 RAW files with the new compatibility update installed and the G11 support doesn't work for the S90. I'm guessing it might be because while the sensor is the same, the lens is different and I've heard there's some lens correction needed with S90 RAW files as part of the processing.

Thanks for running that G11/S90 test Matthew. Yes, I think it is the lens correction on the S90 that may have prevented that Raw update from being included. It's too bad.

My first hope was that the G11 profile would cover the S90 too, but of course no dice. "Too bad"...more like idiotic. And annoying. Get with it, Apple. I've been using Aperture since the day 1.0 was released, and honestly, I'm getting more and more frustrated every week that passes. Not to turn this into a Aperture flaming thread. The lack of quick camera updates and the lack of an overall major app ugrade are really bothersome for all of us users.

As Derrick points out too many interesting cameras are being ignored by Apple. Panasonic G1/GH1 comes to mind. I'm not sure how well the pro cameras are being supported, but prosumer cameras are clearly not. I don't like the Lightroom interface nor Adobe's approach to software, but iPhoto doesn't cut it, so since my next camera is likely one NOT on Apple's support list, I'll have to move on.

I also wonder if the manufacturers aren't partially to blame by not working with vendors to make their camera's easier to support.

I think Anon brings up a great point about manufacturer support. My understanding is, there is very little. If true, it's not helping us, the photographer/customer.

And one tedns to forget, that over 14 months since it release, Apple still does not support Leica D-Lux 4. Apple manages once again to keep pushing me towards Lightroom. I am not sure they listen much, but if they do, I hope they have a very strong version of Aperture right to be relased, because otherwise I see a dark future ahead for an app that had so much potential.

Would be nice to see some Panasonic love in the next update but I´m not holding my breath. While I prefer Apertures user interface over Lightrooms, for me both apps do an equal (but not equally intuitive) job. I´ll give Apple until the Lightroom 3 beta expires, then Adobe gets my money.

Why don't smaller manufacturers work with vendors like Apple, Adobe and others? Why make them all reverse engineer their RAW? Who gains? I think it's safe to say no one buys a Panasonic because of the software. How different can their RAW profiling be? Can't be that different if it can be reverse engineered?

As an owner of a Leica D-LUX 4, I have over 30K images in Aperture, RAW + jpg. I am hoping for the day they support it.

What I have found is that there are a number of RAW converters that support the camera, but do not include the lens distortion correction that the camera applies to the jpg. I am assuming Aperture did not want to do a partial job of RAW conversion on these files, as others have, and since they cannot do the lens correction they chose not to support conversion for cameras that do. The LX-3 definitely does, and I think the other Pannys do as well.

I have 12TB of images in Aperture, mostly Nikon NEFs, and shots from my Phase One back. The program is a great asset manager, and after trying it, I think Lightroom is a convoluted mess. I am looking forward to v3, it should be a showpiece for OpenCL GCD and 64-bit.

Derrick, what happened to the great podcasts with Joe Shorr and others???

great stuff and I miss it